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lovey01
I'll rate it inbetween what I think someone who can't reliably get to the third to last jump in save 4 would feel and someone who can reliably get to the third to last jump in save 4 would feel.
If you can't reliably get to that jump (reliably being in roughly every 5 minutes), it can get really irritating because you spend like 15-20 minutes constantly dying to the double water plane and occasionally dying to the jump after, then get to the hard part and (most of the time) die right away.
If you can reliably get to it, though, it's a very fun save to grind.
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If you can't reliably get to that jump (reliably being in roughly every 5 minutes), it can get really irritating because you spend like 15-20 minutes constantly dying to the double water plane and occasionally dying to the jump after, then get to the hard part and (most of the time) die right away.
If you can reliably get to it, though, it's a very fun save to grind.
Rating: 6.5 65
Difficulty: 83 83
Feb 22, 2021
popop614
honestly not that hard, people overrate save 4
fun though
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fun though
Rating: 7.5 75
Difficulty: 88 88
Feb 19, 2021
MARCO
last room is super hard
Tagged as: Needle
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Rating: 3.9 39
Difficulty: 90 90
Jan 26, 2021
notmaxwell
Well. I really do love the first 2 screens, It is some of my favourite needle gameplay I have ever played and it got incredibly consistent incredibly quick, the third screen i kinda ... struggled with a lot, getting 39 last jump deaths, but I do think that is quite likely my fault, atleast definitely 10+ of them were on me. But if the 3rd screen does not have that issue for other players, it is also amazing and other than the last jump it is also very consistent and fun :)
And then there is the 4th screen. No. It's abhorrent. I would love to give this a higher rating in quality but with good faith I just can't, it burns even more that the game is such a masterpiece in my eyes only to be pulled down in quality so badly with the single worst screen I have ever had the pure misfortune of playing, it is vastly different in design to all the prior screens, having little setups and the jumps are painful and inconsistent to play, I have heard from deathless players that S4 does get consistent, but i'd imagine only a long while *after* you clear it for the first time. All the water jumps are horrible, and the screen delves completely away from the gameplay it builds upon the first 3 screens. I also think it is by far the hardest screen, taking me ~5h or so to clear, while the first 2 screens only took ~3h in total, and the 3rd being ~3.5h.
It's worth mentioning i did this as a hardest clear, I also do not recommend this because it makes the 4th screen also more painful and you will spend longer amounts of time on it compared to if you improve and do this at a later time. That is why my difficulty rating is also not great, I will update it later though.
In conclusion, if you are going to try to clear this, i'd highly recommend booking a therapist appointment in advance because you will most likely need it after playing the 4th screen.
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And then there is the 4th screen. No. It's abhorrent. I would love to give this a higher rating in quality but with good faith I just can't, it burns even more that the game is such a masterpiece in my eyes only to be pulled down in quality so badly with the single worst screen I have ever had the pure misfortune of playing, it is vastly different in design to all the prior screens, having little setups and the jumps are painful and inconsistent to play, I have heard from deathless players that S4 does get consistent, but i'd imagine only a long while *after* you clear it for the first time. All the water jumps are horrible, and the screen delves completely away from the gameplay it builds upon the first 3 screens. I also think it is by far the hardest screen, taking me ~5h or so to clear, while the first 2 screens only took ~3h in total, and the 3rd being ~3.5h.
It's worth mentioning i did this as a hardest clear, I also do not recommend this because it makes the 4th screen also more painful and you will spend longer amounts of time on it compared to if you improve and do this at a later time. That is why my difficulty rating is also not great, I will update it later though.
In conclusion, if you are going to try to clear this, i'd highly recommend booking a therapist appointment in advance because you will most likely need it after playing the 4th screen.
Rating: 6.5 65
Difficulty: 88 88
Aug 3, 2025
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